“In terms of the layoffs and stuff like that, I actually think that was more due to companies trying to navigate Covid,” he said.

But now these companies are realising that it is better to have less staff as even though initially tech companies were reluctant to make cuts, they realized it didn’t spell the end for them, Mark Zuckerberg reflected.

“It was obviously really tough, we parted with a lot of talented people we cared about,” he said in the interview, speaking about Meta’s past layoffs.

“But in some ways actually becoming leaner kind of makes the company more effective”, he added, continuing that Meta has been making a comeback after cutting jobs in an “year of efficiency” as the company has been chopping management layers.

Instagram has been eliminating technical program managers- a role which is also being reportedly cut back across other parts of Meta.

This is because companies are still in the mode of thinking about efficiency, Mark Zuckerberg said. Some companies are also restructuring, flattening out management levels and transitioning completely to a leaner model, he said as Microsoft and Google have downsized despite solid earnings.

But AI might not be a big part of the equation as “at least for us, the AI stuff was not a major driver for tha. It was like first this overbuilding and then this sense of like let’s do the best work we can by making a lean company,” he said.